Senator SMITH.
13 I wish you would tell the reporter when you first knew of this collision, and what you did, and where you were in the ship. I believe you were a steerage passenger?
Mr. ABELSETH.
14 Yes, sir.
Senator SMITH.
15 In the forward part of the ship?
Mr. ABELSETH.
16 Yes, I was in compartment G on the ship.
Senator SMITH.
17 Go ahead and tell us just what happened.
Mr. ABELSETH.
18 I went to bed about 10 o’clock Sunday night, and I think it was about 15 minutes to 12 when I woke up; and there was another man in the same room—two of us in the same room—and he said to me, “What is that?” I said, “I don’t know, but we had better get up.” So we did get up and put our clothes on, and we two went up on deck in the forward part of the ship.
19 Then there was quite a lot of ice on the starboard part of the ship. They wanted us to go down again, and I saw one of the officers, and I said to him: “Is there any danger?” He said, “No.” I was not satisfied with that, however, so I went down and told my brother-in-law and my cousin, who were in the same compartment there. They were in the same room, but they were just a little ways from where I was. I told them about what was happening, and I said they had better get up. Both of them got up and dressed, and we took our overcoats and put them on. We did not take any lifebelts with us. There was no water on the deck at that time . . .
20 . . . We all went up on deck and stayed there. We walked over to the port side of the ship, and there were five of us standing, looking, and we thought we saw a light.
Senator SMITH.
21 On what deck were you standing?
Mr. ABELSETH.
22 Not on the top deck, but on—I do not know what you call it, but it is the hind part, where the sitting room is; and then there is a kind of a little space in between, where they go up on deck. It was up on the boat deck, the place for the steerage passengers on the deck. We were then on the port side there, and we looked out at this light. I said to my brother-in-law: “I can see it plain, now. It must be a light.”
Senator SMITH.
23 How far away was it?
Mr. ABELSETH.
24 I could not say, but it did not seem to be so very far. I thought I could see this mast light, the front mast light. That is what I thought I could see.
25 A little while later there was one of the officers who came and said to be quiet, that there was a ship coming. That is all he said . . .
26 . . . There were a lot of steerage people there that were getting on one of these cranes that they had on deck, that they used to lift things with. They can lift about two and a half tons, I believe. These steerage passengers were crawling along on this, over the railing, and away up to the boat deck. A lot of them were doing that.
Senator SMITH.
27 They could not get up there in any other way?
Mr. ABELSETH.
28 This gate was shut.
Senator SMITH.
29 Was it locked?
Mr. ABELSETH.
30 I do not know whether it was locked, but it was shut so that they could not go that way . . .
31 . . . We stayed a little while longer, . . . We were standing there looking at them lowering this boat. We could see them, some of the crew helping take the ladies in their arms and throwing them into the lifeboats. We saw them lower this boat, and there were no more boats on the port side.
32 So we walked over to the starboard side of the ship, and just as we were standing there one of the officers came up and he said just as he walked by, “Are there any sailors here?”
33 I did not say anything. I have been a fishing man for six years . . . I would have gone, but my brother-in-law and my cousin said, in the Norwegian language, as we were speaking Norwegian: “Let us stay here together.” I do not know, but I think the officer wanted some help to get some of these collapsible boats out. All he said was: “Are there any sailors here?” I did not say anything, but I have been used to the ocean for a long time. I commenced to work on the ocean when I was 10 years old with my dad fishing. I kept that up until I came to this country.
34 Then we stayed there, and we were just standing still there. We did not talk very much. Just a little ways from us I saw there was an old couple standing there on the deck, and I heard this man say to the lady, “Go into the lifeboat and get saved.” . . . She replied: “No, let me stay with you.” I could not say who it was, but I saw that he was an old man. I did not pay much attention to him, because I did not know him.
35 I was standing there, and I asked my brother-in-law if he could swim and he said no. I asked my cousin if he could swim and he said no. So we could see the water coming up, the bow of the ship was going down, and there was a kind of an explosion. We could hear the popping and cracking, and the deck raised up and got so steep that the people could not stand on their feet on the deck. So they fell down and slid on the deck into the water right on the ship. Then we hung onto a rope in one of the davits. We were pretty far back at the top deck.
36 My brother-in-law said to me, “We had better jump off or the suction will take us down.” . . . So, then, it was only about 5 feet down to the water when we jumped off. It was not much of a jump. Before that we could see the people were jumping over. There was water coming onto the deck, and they were jumping over, then, out in the water.
37 My brother-in-law took my hand just as we jumped off; and my cousin jumped at the same time. When we came into the water, I think it was from the suction—or anyway we went under, and I swallowed some water. I got a rope tangled around me, and I let loose of my brother-in-law’s hand to get away from the rope. I thought then, “I am a goner.” That is what I thought when I got tangled up in this rope. But I came on top again, and I was trying to swim, and there was a man—lots of them were floating around—and he got me on the neck like that (illustrating) and pressed me under, trying to get on top of me. I said to him, “Let go.” Of course, he did not pay any attention to that, but I got away from him. Then there was another man, and he hung on to me for a while, but he let go. Then I swam; I could not say, but it must have been about 15 or 20 minutes. It could not have been over that. Then I saw something dark ahead of me. I did not know what it was, but I swam toward that, and it was one of those collapsible boats.
38 When we jumped off the ship, we had life preservers on. There was no suction from the ship at all. I was lying still, and I thought “I will try to see if I can float on the lifebelt without help from swimming,” and I floated easily on the lifebelt.
39 When I got on this raft or collapsible boat, they did not try to push me off and they did not do anything for me to get on. All they said when I got on there was, “Don’t capsize the boat.” So I hung onto the raft for a little while before I got on.
40 Some of them were trying to get up on their feet. They were sitting down or lying down on the raft. Some of them fell into the water again. Some of them were frozen; and there were two dead, that they threw overboard.
41 I got on this raft or collapsible boat and raised up, and then I was continually moving my arms and swinging them around to keep warm. There was one lady aboard this raft, and she got saved. I do not know her name. I saw her on board the Carpathia, but I forgot to ask her name. There were also two Swedes, and a first class passenger—I believe that is what he said—and he had just his underwear on. I asked him if he was married, and he said he had a wife and child. There was also a fireman named Thompson on the same raft. He had burned one of his hands. Also there was a young boy, with a name that sounded like Volunteer. He was at St. Vincent’s Hospital afterwards. Thompson was there, too.
42 The next morning we could see some of the lifeboats. One of the boats had a sail up, and he came pretty close, and then we said, “One, two, three”: we said that quite often. We did not talk very much, except that we would say, “One, two, three,” and scream together for help . . .
. . . Senator SMITH.
43 Did you see any icebergs on that morning?
Mr. ABELSETH.
44 We saw three big ones. They were quite a ways off.
Senator SMITH.
45 I want to direct your attention again to the steerage. Do you think the passengers in the steerage and in the bow of the boat had an opportunity to get out and up on the decks, or were they held back?
Mr. ABELSETH.
46 Yes, I think they had an opportunity to get up.
Senator SMITH.
47 There were no gates or doors locked, or anything that kept them down?
Mr. ABELSETH.
48 No, sir; not that I could see.
Senator SMITH.
49 You said that a number of them climbed up one of these cranes?
